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Post by hardkoreusmc on Jan 7, 2006 12:49:17 GMT -5
SOAD is okay, but S.O.D. is much better in my view. :-)
But I agree that Zakk Wylde's Black Label Society should have an album up there, I saw him live and I was like "HOLY SH*T! F*CK YES!"
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Post by Cheshire cat on Jan 7, 2006 13:39:24 GMT -5
SOAD is okay, but S.O.D. is much better in my view. :-) But I agree that Zakk Wylde's Black Label Society should have an album up there, I saw him live and I was like "HOLY SH*T! F*CK YES!" Black label? Blech, nah, could put it on but, none for me.
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Post by Psychoman on Jan 7, 2006 16:14:37 GMT -5
oh chesh....cheshire kitty....little do you know of the ways and teachings of metal...Zakk Wylde learned from the master himself, Ozzy FUCKIN Osbourne. I dont want to be all praise metal and Ozzy and Zakk and....wait a minute....YES I DO. I know they arent the only type of music but still to have learned under the best like Ozzy and Randy Rhoads, RIP, is like a metal fairy tale. He was only 18 when he joined Ozzy's band!
Now SOAD is good but their lyrics suck pretty bad. Mr. Jack I like. but BYOB is pretty stupid. Highway song good, BOOM bad. For every good song they have a bad one. By bad I mean bad lyrics because really? pizza pie, every minute pizza? WTF DOES THAT MEAN? somthin about advertisment? Whatever. I like the heavy metal sound they have and a few creepy songs but that about it. I love thier vocals though....what was I talkin about?
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Post by Cheshire cat on Jan 7, 2006 19:54:33 GMT -5
oh chesh....cheshire kitty....little do you know of the ways and teachings of metal...Zakk Wylde learned from the master himself, Ozzy *pauk*IN Osbourne. I dont want to be all praise metal and Ozzy and Zakk and....wait a minute....YES I DO. I know they arent the only type of music but still to have learned under the best like Ozzy and Randy Rhoads, RIP, is like a metal fairy tale. He was only 18 when he joined Ozzy's band! Now SOAD is good but their lyrics suck pretty bad. Mr. Jack I like. but BYOB is pretty stupid. Highway song good, BOOM bad. For every good song they have a bad one. By bad I mean bad lyrics because really? pizza pie, every minute pizza? WTF DOES THAT MEAN? somthin about advertisment? Whatever. I like the heavy metal sound they have and a few creepy songs but that about it. I love thier vocals though....what was I talkin about? Okay yes ozzie rocks, but black label sounds like another fucking eddie veddar voice rip off. Also, if you actually pay attention to Serj's lyrics, you can tell it's about advertizement manipulating the entire planet to buy. ALL of SOADs songs rock, they OWN everyone! ;D Serjs lyrics are important, and nab at important things, they actually MATTER. Instead of shitty lyrics: "Bah i don't have a girlfriend" shit, it's actually about something IMPORTANT, and although it's a bit cryptic, it's still gets the point across. I HAD AN OUT OF BODY EXPERIENCE, THE OTHER DAY, HER NAME WAS JESUS, AND FOR HER EVERYONE CRIED, EVERYONE CRIED, EVERYONE CRIED. *SCREEEECH!* WTF! Boom is an awsome fucking song! So is BYOB, they both have good points, and good sounds. *kicks him* Grrrr...
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Post by Still Churchill on Jan 7, 2006 20:09:56 GMT -5
Wow, I'm sorry if this makes you mad but SOAD sucks fucking cock in my opinion. PSYCHOMAN, OZZY IS METAL's KNIGHT IN SHINING ARMOR. METAL'S MESSIAH. sorry, but Ozzy is the reason why you have your shitty *System of a Down*
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Post by hardkoreusmc on Jan 8, 2006 13:50:27 GMT -5
Actually, all the music that complains about not having a girlfriend is usually NOT metal. Metal talks about having sex with millions of groupies, dying for a love, or in the case of Cannibal Corpse, raping young girls.
The songs of metal have encompassed these topics: Death, Satanism, Sex, Drugs, Rape, Killing, Murder, Suicide, Warfare, Abortion, Christ, Anti-Christ, Torture, Rock and Roll, Metal, Moshing, Thrashing, getting Milk, protesting current events/political stuff...
...but never does it talk about not having a girlfriend.
Ozzy is the Godfather of Heavy Metal, no question. Rob Halford is the Metal God, no question Zakk Wylde is the NEXT Randy Rhodes, no question (all he has to do is know how to play slow, which he is already achieving in Mafia)
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Post by Still Churchill on Jan 8, 2006 14:07:41 GMT -5
Yeah, the original ad campaign of Black Sabbath was "Black Sabbath...louder than Zeppelin", I might have over reacted on Ozzy, but without him, and he people of Black Sabbath metal wouldn't be what it is today.
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Post by Psychoman on Jan 8, 2006 18:07:12 GMT -5
To concur on what Commandor kore said, yeah metal does not sing about loosing a girlfriend or whatever. Suicide Messiah by Zakk Wylde is about one of his friends dying on drugs. In this rivver by Zakk is an ode to Dimbag Darrel Abbot RIP. It Gets Me Through by Ozzy is about the non metal fans call him evil but he thanks his fans for being faithful. Ozzy has a kind of song style that in which he sings about A man who helped the people, and then the people turned on him. Iron man is like that, Bark at the Moon is like that, and Back on Earth is like that. Listen to the lyrics and it tells the story of his life. (though he wrote Iron man before he was kicked out, I think it is about Metal Heads being excluded in general).
What I have against boom is that they say "Why must we kill our own kind?" wtf....animals kill themselves all the time. And for the same reasons we humans do it. Territory, and pussy. simple as that! Also, from the song BYOB "Why dont presidents fight the war, why do they always send the poor?" Because the poor volenteered and the president LEADS he does not FIGHT. he is a LEADER. As bad as a leader I think Bush and his administration is he is our LEADER so he will LEAD. ty...
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Post by Cheshire cat on Jan 9, 2006 13:54:22 GMT -5
To concur on what Commandor kore said, yeah metal does not sing about loosing a girlfriend or whatever. Suicide Messiah by Zakk Wylde is about one of his friends dying on drugs. In this rivver by Zakk is an ode to Dimbag Darrel Abbot RIP. It Gets Me Through by Ozzy is about the non metal fans call him evil but he thanks his fans for being faithful. Ozzy has a kind of song style that in which he sings about A man who helped the people, and then the people turned on him. Iron man is like that, Bark at the Moon is like that, and Back on Earth is like that. Listen to the lyrics and it tells the story of his life. (though he wrote Iron man before he was kicked out, I think it is about Metal Heads being excluded in general). What I have against boom is that they say "Why must we kill our own kind?" wtf....animals kill themselves all the time. And for the same reasons we humans do it. Territory, and pussy. simple as that! Also, from the song BYOB "Why dont presidents fight the war, why do they always send the poor?" Because the poor volenteered and the president LEADS he does not FIGHT. he is a LEADER. As bad as a leader I think Bush and his administration is he is our LEADER so he will LEAD. ty... For BOOM, animals don't kill thoughsands of themselves in one day, humans do. Humans kill too often, Serj is a peace monger and doesn't have the answer, i can give it to him: This planet is overpopulated with humans. We slaughter millions because it's nature responding to all the babies we're creating. For BYOB: That it so *pauk*ing wrong, the poor don't volenteer to be in a war, they get trapped by ads the the guys who come in and recruit. People are manipulated by this. And besides, the leaders SHOULD fight the war, the bush administraition is *pauk*, it sucks, bush wants that oil? He can get his oil, on his *pauk*ing own. And THAT is what Serj means. Both BOOM and BYOB are about how this stupid war means nothing and it's screwing everything else up. If you should have a problem with lyrics in a song, the only lyrics i can find are to Science, they don't even know what science is. Science is very important, not the anti christ.
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Post by hardkoreusmc on Jan 9, 2006 16:56:27 GMT -5
Ches, the leaders ARE fighting the war in there own way. You are not going to see the Commander In Cheif grab an M16 and go out on the streets. That is not his role in the nation. His job is to set policy and basically steer in what direction the nation is heading. He tells the generals who's asses need to be kicked and the general tell their subordinates, and then eventually the working bees (grunts) are over there fist f*cking the bad guys. Granted the reason we are in Iraq is for control of the oil reserves, but the prices were going to rise anyways, so why not remove one rotten apple (Hussain) from the mix and put a democratic nation in its place. ****The fundamentalist terrorist generation is withering and it is becoming less over there. The new generations are going to take control and they don't believe in those radical ideas that the ones before them held high.
"Paintball not war" said one teen in Iran.
Concuring on what Psychoman said, Poon-tang, territory, and power are the reasons we kill each other. ANIMALS are far more savage, they kill just to kill (and for food, etc). They will kill just to mutilate much like a psychotic madman.
AIDS and Human nature to kill is "natures" way to control our population. I strongly believe that the mass deaths happening around the world are neccessary for the others to survive. Without them, take the world population and multiply it by 30.
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Post by Psychoman on Jan 9, 2006 17:02:43 GMT -5
To concur on what Commandor kore said, yeah metal does not sing about loosing a girlfriend or whatever. Suicide Messiah by Zakk Wylde is about one of his friends dying on drugs. In this rivver by Zakk is an ode to Dimbag Darrel Abbot RIP. It Gets Me Through by Ozzy is about the non metal fans call him evil but he thanks his fans for being faithful. Ozzy has a kind of song style that in which he sings about A man who helped the people, and then the people turned on him. Iron man is like that, Bark at the Moon is like that, and Back on Earth is like that. Listen to the lyrics and it tells the story of his life. (though he wrote Iron man before he was kicked out, I think it is about Metal Heads being excluded in general). What I have against boom is that they say "Why must we kill our own kind?" wtf....animals kill themselves all the time. And for the same reasons we humans do it. Territory, and pussy. simple as that! Also, from the song BYOB "Why dont presidents fight the war, why do they always send the poor?" Because the poor volenteered and the president LEADS he does not FIGHT. he is a LEADER. As bad as a leader I think Bush and his administration is he is our LEADER so he will LEAD. ty... For BOOM, animals don't kill thoughsands of themselves in one day, humans do. Humans kill too often, Serj is a peace monger and doesn't have the answer, i can give it to him: This planet is overpopulated with humans. We slaughter millions because it's nature responding to all the babies we're creating. For BYOB: That it so *pauk*ing wrong, the poor don't volenteer to be in a war, they get trapped by ads the the guys who come in and recruit. People are manipulated by this. And besides, the leaders SHOULD fight the war, the bush administraition is *pauk*, it sucks, bush wants that oil? He can get his oil, on his *pauk*ing own. And THAT is what Serj means. Both BOOM and BYOB are about how this stupid war means nothing and it's screwing everything else up. If you should have a problem with lyrics in a song, the only lyrics i can find are to Science, they don't even know what science is. Science is very important, not the anti christ. WTF DO YOU MEAN, KID? They, just like people who eat at McDonalds, have a *pauk*in choice on if they want to join the army or super size their fries! Now, I cant say that I am all for this war but one day it HAD to be done. You think we lost alot of people in this incursion then look at veitnam, look at the korean "war". Trapped by the adds my ass. No one forces them to join the army no more than somone forces you to stuff your face with McDonalds or anything else like that. I do agree, however, that Bush is not operating in the best interest of the United states. I dont want to say I rely 100% on movies but I do think that Micheal Moore has a point. It is very interesting how the bush family and many other iraqi companies are tied together. But to get back on topic...To say the "Nature" is killing off the overpopulated earth is to openly admit you are *pauk*in retarted. Earths population is growing and will continue to grow. Nature is not sending missles around to blow things up. Animals dont kill thousands of themselves because they dont have the technology. If given the chance they would kill any predator(not the one you are thinking of, an actualy predator) they could see, and any male that threatens them. Animals are humans on a less tech level. Dont push your peach "i love the world" bull*c'jit* on me. Thats just what it is, bull*c'jit*.
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Post by hardkoreusmc on Jan 9, 2006 17:12:02 GMT -5
EXACTLY! Very well articulated.
Animals are humans without the ability to be aware of themselves. Our ability to restrain ourselves and think logically is what makes us human.
I think Judas Priest: Hellbent For Leather would have made a good alternate for any of the other options above.
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Post by Psychoman on Jan 9, 2006 17:13:58 GMT -5
Brother Commander your new avatar and sig KICKS ASS. BLS ALL THE WAY!! YEAH ROCK ON!
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Post by hardkoreusmc on Jan 9, 2006 17:29:37 GMT -5
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Post by Still Churchill on Jan 9, 2006 20:24:21 GMT -5
Finally we get this back on topic without some bullshit about "System of a Down" and how some guy named "Serj"(His parent's must of been hyped up on a motherfuckin motherload of cocaine to come up with that name) is all about peace and Cheshire Cat idolizes him or something. System of a Down isn't metal, you can find it in the "Pop/Rock" section. Metal is good, not wannabe's like System of a Down. Metallica, Pantera, Judas Priest, Black Label, Ozzy, Black Sabbath, (I don't like them but...)Disturbed, Slipknot, Mudvayne; that's metal. Metal isn't "Bush should go fight the wars and get his head blown off instead off our soildiers. A) The government is doing all they can to get our soldiers better body armor and B) Cheshire, you can't stop what's in human nature. Sex, Killings, Guns. All nessecary evils if that's what you think of them as. Sex is great, and no I'm not saying that. God created sex, not Satan and it's not evil. It's been used wrongly but it's no evil. Killings need to stop, but personally I love guns and I love finding whatever I can. Let me tell you this though before you fall on your ass in life: Don't waste your life on things you can't control.
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Post by Psychoman on Jan 9, 2006 22:13:43 GMT -5
To keep this post going and to keep the music board post downsized lets just say that in this thread you can talk about any album you like, I suppose...
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Post by Joker on Jan 9, 2006 22:22:05 GMT -5
Ah, old-school Metallica... the first metal band I listened to, I think, and thoroughly enjoyed Not much into heavy stuff these days tho, I think once you have a child you enjoy the softer side of life... but I agree that 'modern' metal isn't really like the old-school metal at all. Sorta gives me the impression of too-manufactured/industrial/try-hard music... just doesn't seem to have the 'soul' of the greats. Anyway, that's my impression
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Post by Psychoman on Jan 9, 2006 22:31:36 GMT -5
Much appreciated Sir Joker, Seeing as you grew up in a very different time than I, I can see what your saying but the bands I listen to dont really sound "too-manufactured/industrial/try-hard music". Sabbath, Zepplin, Black Label, their all good man. Mettalica, Aerosmith. The really good bands are the ones that dont split up dont sell out, and dont change their sound. *cough* sabbath *cough* The ones that do sell out with comercials, and [bandname] everything are the ones that bug me *cough* kiss, mettalica *cough*. Excuse me I have the *cough*'s. ;D
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Post by Joker on Jan 10, 2006 0:11:01 GMT -5
Here, have some syrup But yeah, I know there'd be some bands out there that are true to the genre - I just haven't kept up really - I'll still listen to stuff with a thrashing heavy beat with real instruments. Not too much manufactured/computer stuff. God I hope I don't end up as a crotchety old man with the "curse these young-uns with their loud rock music" attitude...
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Post by hardkoreusmc on Jan 10, 2006 0:14:16 GMT -5
Speaking of Old School...I like old thrash metal. Metallica, Anthrax, Slayer, Megadeth, Metal Church, Kreator, Testament, etc. are all good stuff I think all of the new stuff is as spirited as the greats old ones, but the fact of the matter is, that road has already been traveled down now.
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