My fellow Hunters and Huntresses....

[E-Stalin [Orthrus]]

Jul 7, 2009 12:09:42 GMT -5 Nrak'Ytara said:

I do think there IS life somewhere else. Surly we humans are not the only sentient beings in the whole galaxy. I mean who knows maybe aliens did help the human race.

First, why couldn't humans be the only sentient beings in the whole galaxy?

Second, define sentient.

Third, then how come *repeats all previous points about lack of evidence*?

Why did the Aztec, Mayans etc have so many gods? I've looked and read bits and pieces of stuff just for the hell of it. Some of the Aztec gods sounded pretty weird to me. Like the god of the hunt and death. Anyhow how do we know humans were not taught by lets say Yautja or something like the big eyes big headed green aliens.

The question should not be why many religions are polytheistic, but why not all of them are polytheistic. How come they're so blatantly inconsistent?

How do we know? Well, ignoring the fact that it's really impossible to 'know' anything, *repeats all previous points here*. That's why.

Lets just say the yautja are or might be real. And they taught us. Why did they leave?
Well we fight allot we humans are almost always fighting. They aliens IF they helped us might have left and see how bad everything is turning out that they don't want to come back.

Once again, why would they help us in the first place? Where is their material gain?

We fight for resources and ideologies. If this was based in alien presence, ideologies would be consistent and a good half of all warfare would be non-substantial.
Also, considering their technology easily allows them to rip us apart, I don't think they'd worry about tiny humans with AKs and jets with a service ceiling of only 20,000 meters.

Also IF aliens did visit us again, we probably wont know about it because of the government and such. Since they don't want us to 'panic'

1. A government can't stop an alien craft from dropping into the center of New York. It's not like they're going to deliberately seek out a completely isolated location for the benefit of conspiracy theorists.

2. *repeat all previous points here*

Only a true, God-given retard would cover up something as such.

Humans as a mass don't panic over this, they orgasm over it.

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If you're still running along the lines of Yautja being the ones to drop by, then I doubt our tendency to fight would be any reason for them to leave. They are a society built upon honor and the hunt. If anything, I would think they would use the humans' tendency for aggression to their advantage, rather than for any sort of reason to leave the planet behind.

Now wouldn't it be frightening to know we're aphids being routed by ants? ;D


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I'm about to rip your 5 cents apart.

Why waste a perfectly good nickel?

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Jul 7, 2009 16:53:43 GMT -5 Nrak'Ytara said:

Eh I'm used to things I say getting torn apart.

Then reinforce them with ceramic and add a few block of reactive explosive.

Well no maybe yautja re not real but we never know. Anyhow yes it might have been recorded. Allot of things have been recorded true.

The issue is not that it 'might' have been recorded, the issue is that it apparently hasn't been recorded. Something as major as this would be the basis of all human history, culture, and theistic worship. Instead we don't find anything like it.

No religion I know of, except maybe Scientology, has anything about "Us existing, then Gods coming, helping us, and leaving"

It's all "Chaos. Gods made us within it. Gods are bad-ass. Worship the Gods and they'll help us."

Why would aliens help us??
Answer: Hmm I don't know. Maybe felt bad for us? I honestly don't know. It's just a thought is all.

Do you feel bad for roasted chicken and the bacteria you wash off your hands?

And if they came to help us for the sake of pity, why aren't they helping us now that we're so obviously ripping eachother up?

Yes something had to make all this.

Oh really? Why exactly is that?

And I know they had allot of gods.

That's another major issue. Not only did they have many individual Gods, but other cultures don't, or have completely different Gods. It is completely inconsistent.

The Egyptians built their pyramids to line up with the 3 stars of Orion's Belt. Thats pretty weird right.

You're only weird if you consider yourself to be. Normality is determined by the majority, which in turn seems to be determined by the individual.

It's not weird at all. They consider something to be an awesome, cool, shocking thing that must have great importance, and therefore must have been made by the Gods or have meaning. So they worship it in their own way. It's no weirder than kneeling down and praying.

So yes there are allot of weird things here on our planet, but whats to say we were not helped out by some different being from outer space?

I don't see anything 'weird' on this planet. Weird is what defies our planet.

What's to say an alien didn't? All of the reasons listed by the people in this thread.

BECAUSE IT WOULD HAVE BEEN RECORDED SOMEWHERE IN HISTORY.

Uh I know but how many recorded things from a very long time ago have lasted, besides the pyramids?

But you're not saying they helped us out a very long time ago, you're saying they helped us out with technology, which means we would have had written history by that point.

What else has lasted? Ruins, artifacts with runes and symbols, fire, religions, and etc.

[Tundra]

I'd just like to throw in my opinion on the "Why would they.." bit. Othrus said

Once again, why would they help us in the first place? Where is their material gain?

Saying that is assuming that aliens are just as greedy as us. When was the last time you helped someone without expecting to get something in return?

If aliens exist who is to say that they are every bit as greedy, violent, and destructive as us? Maybe aliens are the gods of ancient Egypt, maybe they have dog heads, and beaks, and maybe they are divine. They could be on a crusade to help where they can.

Or they could just help us once, and in a few thousands years come and want something in return.

If they indeed helped us somewhere in time, why do we rule out that option because there was no material gain? What if they were just good hearted?

[Still Churchill]

Jul 7, 2009 17:20:42 GMT -5 E-Stalin [Orthrus] said:

Jul 7, 2009 12:09:42 GMT -5 Nrak'Ytara said:

Why waste a perfectly good nickel?

Fuck coins, get dollars.

[E-Stalin [Orthrus]]

Jul 7, 2009 17:38:01 GMT -5 Tundra said:

I'd just like to throw in my opinion on the "Why would they.." bit. Othrus said

Once again, why would they help us in the first place? Where is their material gain?

Saying that is assuming that aliens are just as greedy as us. When was the last time you helped someone without expecting to get something in return?

Or they could just help us once, and in a few thousands years come and want something in return.

If they indeed helped us somewhere in time, why do we rule out that option because there was no material gain? What if they were just good hearted?

Once again, anthropomorphic problem. I'm of course assuming these creatures even perceive reality in the way humans do, which is extremely unlikely.

When you help someone, you're helping another of your own species, therefore ensuring the overall chances of survival of that species and yourself.
When was the last time you helped out a chicken before cutting its head off so you could eat?

And what's the point of coming back in a few millennium expecting a return favor when they're obviously superior to us and we don't even remember them?

[BloodyFangs]

Jul 7, 2009 16:53:43 GMT -5 Nrak'Ytara said:

Well no maybe yautja re not real but we never know.

It's not an issue of maybe. They're not real. They're the creation of a human mind, much like just about every other comic character.

Anyhow yes it might have been recorded. Allot of things have been recorded true.

Hundreds of thousands of things have been recorded. Much more, even. But aliens assisting the humans? No, there is no evidence of that whatsoever.

Uh I know but how many recorded things from a very long time ago have lasted, besides the pyramids?

Nothing concerning your friendly neighborhood aliens, that's for sure.

Why would aliens help us??
Answer: Hmm I don't know. Maybe felt bad for us? I honestly don't know. It's just a thought is all.

Jul 7, 2009 17:38:01 GMT -5 Tundra said:

Saying that is assuming that aliens are just as greedy as us. When was the last time you helped someone without expecting to get something in return?

Or they could just help us once, and in a few thousands years come and want something in return.

If they indeed helped us somewhere in time, why do we rule out that option because there was no material gain? What if they were just good hearted?

And just as you say Orthrus is assuming that beings from another world share our greedy tendencies, you are saying that these creatures have any sort of human-like feelings of kindheartedness.

Most creatures that we have strived to understand on our own planet act in order to gain something. Whether it be some humans' greediness for wealth or fame, or an animal's want and need to feed itself and its family. There is almost always something to be gained out of interfering with one's surroundings.

If these aliens were the kind and loving creatures you claim they could be, then there would be no reason for them to abandon their labor of love. If it was their goal to assist the human race, there would be little reason for them to make some minor adjustments and then leave the inhabitants of the planet to go to war and destroy each other as we do.

Much like the Yautja would take advantage of our natural aggression, it's likely that a more gentle race would make an attempt to smother these aggressive acts to see that we did not destroy their loving efforts to assist us in our development.

You do not raise a beloved pet just to drop it off in the gutter and leave it to fight for its survival.

If aliens exist who is to say that they are every bit as greedy, violent, and destructive as us? Maybe aliens are the gods of ancient Egypt, maybe they have dog heads, and beaks, and maybe they are divine. They could be on a crusade to help where they can.

Like Orthrus has said, if these creatures were depicted as the gods of Ancient Egypt, then they still contradict with every other religious figure of the time.

Also, if these creatures weren't from our world, then why would they carry traits of animals that are native to our planet? It makes very little sense.

Another point, the gods of Ancient Egypt certainly were not kind at all times. They warred and fought one another and were believed to, at times, deal punishment to offending humans. Certainly they were there to protect and help their followers to flourish, but they were not all kindhearted and nurturing. There were such Deities as the God of Evil, a Great Destroyer, and Demon and Demoness Gods and Goddesses.

[Setg]

Jul 6, 2009 16:19:49 GMT -5 E-Stalin [Orthrus] said:

Jul 6, 2009 5:23:17 GMT -5 Tundra said:

Well, i think the answer to that might be

Who would believe us anyway?

Think about it like this: you're walking down the street and someone tells you they talked to an invisible pink unicorn. The conclusion is: insane.

But when that person shows you a pink, talking unicorn? The conclusion is: they're right.

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So, show me a unicorn. ;D

[Still Churchill]

Jul 8, 2009 8:33:32 GMT -5 Setg said:

Jul 6, 2009 16:19:49 GMT -5 E-Stalin [Orthrus] said:

Think about it like this: you're walking down the street and someone tells you they talked to an invisible pink unicorn. The conclusion is: insane.

But when that person shows you a pink, talking unicorn? The conclusion is: they're right.

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So, show me a unicorn. ;D

I remember the other day I met that unicorn. It said that it wanted to take me into the land of trippy shit. So I said, "wait I'm really hungry," and it pointed me to these mushrooms that were growing in what looked like cow shit, so I ate them. I don't believe in oral hygiene. Afterwards the unicorn took me to the peak of Mt. Gofuckyourself and I walked down a stairway of marble which somehow turned into an escalator of marble. As I arrived in the land of trippy shit, I noticed a lot of trippy shit. The sky looked like a shitty copy of the design on a hippy's VW bus, and the ground was made of yellow dirt and I saw a river of chocolate milk.

Anyways to get to my point, a UFO came down and began explaining EVERYTHING to me, so I must tell you. You're right. The aliens did everything, including impregnating your mother so you could be alive. Have a nice day, you alien bastard children.

[junglehunter87]

Have a nice day, you alien bastard children.

LMFAO. ;D

Hey, I'm not an Alien........I hope.......Then again there was that one time....Wait! That wasn't an Alien, that was a cat. Well never mind.

[E-Stalin [Orthrus]]

Jul 8, 2009 8:33:32 GMT -5 Setg said:

Jul 6, 2009 16:19:49 GMT -5 E-Stalin [Orthrus] said:

Think about it like this: you're walking down the street and someone tells you they talked to an invisible pink unicorn. The conclusion is: insane.

But when that person shows you a pink, talking unicorn? The conclusion is: they're right.

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So, show me a unicorn. ;D

My head just friggin' exploded.

Z'on of a beetch!

[Frost]

Jul 8, 2009 8:33:32 GMT -5 Setg said:

Jul 6, 2009 16:19:49 GMT -5 E-Stalin [Orthrus] said:

Think about it like this: you're walking down the street and someone tells you they talked to an invisible pink unicorn. The conclusion is: insane.

But when that person shows you a pink, talking unicorn? The conclusion is: they're right.

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So, show me a unicorn. ;D

OMG! you have just made my day... XD