Military Action Over Seas

[Hannibal]

September 22, 2006

Afghanistan: Time for Truth
Not necessarily what you expect from a Toronto Sun columnist:

Eric Margolis: "Do not believe what OUR media and politicians are telling us about Afghanistan. Nearly all the information we get about the five-year old war in Afghanistan comes from US and NATO public relations officers or "embedded" journalists who merely parrot military handouts. Ask yourself, when did you last read a report from a journalist covering Taliban and other Afghan resistance forces?"

Responsibility to... Get High?
This photo, posted to the Canadian Forces "Combat Camera" web site (sponsored by High Times?) suggests an untold aspect of Canada's mission in Afghanistan.

[the lonely soldier 714]

...errm...they went over seas to get pot? is that what thy're talkin' about?

[Hannibal]

In some aspects yes. One of the Taliban's many export's are drugs.

[E-Stalin [Orthrus]]

So they saw a photo of soldiers walking through some weed, and immediately come up with this crack story of fighting a war for pot?

It sounds like crap to me. So weed grows there, so soldiers passed through it. You don't see them picking it and exporting in giant trucks onto a plane to Canada do you?

[the lonely soldier 714]

why don't they just burn the pot? Canadian Forces has no use for it. what they gonna do? smoke that sh*t. and even if that was the case, that's in their jurisdiction. they could get court marshaled for that crap.

[Spooky]

See Orthrus, I believe they might actually be on to something here. Take note of the two men in front, they don't look fully there, kinda gone and blazed. Then you can see a row of soldiers facing the cannibus plants, some looking down, almost as if... to pick the plants... Then the man up in the top right corner in front of the vehicle, big stupid grin on his face and hands on his hips.

What is the world coming to?

I kid, I kid.

[dahnknadek]

orthrus said:

So they saw a photo of soldiers walking through some weed, and immediately come up with this crack story of fighting a war for pot?

It sounds like crap to me. So weed grows there, so soldiers passed through it. You don't see them picking it and exporting in giant trucks onto a plane to Canada do you?

I agree, and if you knew anything about weed, you will know that those plants are too small to harvest yet.

[Hannibal]

Very true, the plants are still in a premature state, but any ways. Point is Yes the soldiers are looking at them, chuckling laughing, making jokes, why? Because it's hilarious man. Big ol' tough bad guys growing dope and getting busted just like the little nickle and dimer dealers. Now a select FEW MAY pocket some of the confiscated contraband, but you wont see them doing the shit. Think about it.. federal pensions, medicals, dentals, other benefits and so forth. and thats not including court marshaling, dishonorable discharge, and possible federal military prison terms. Even if there was a small few that did get caught.. you'll never hear about it publicly.

[hardkoreusmc]

Maybe we should create massive stockpiles of mary-jane, and then when the wind blows the way favorable for us, we set fire to the massive piles and use the fumes as a form of chemical warfare , all the enemy forces will be stoned when we come in with MOP suits and Gas masks.

[E-Stalin [Orthrus]]

hardkoreusmc said:

Maybe we should create massive stockpiles of mary-jane, and then when the wind blows the way favorable for us, we set fire to the massive piles and use the fumes as a form of chemical warfare , all the enemy forces will be stoned when we come in with MOP suits and Gas masks.

Yes, sure, eliminate the demoralization and fear that inevitably comes with combat. That's why vodka was considered a priority equipment supply in WWII Russia.

[hardkoreusmc]

orthrus said:

hardkoreusmc said:

Maybe we should create massive stockpiles of mary-jane, and then when the wind blows the way favorable for us, we set fire to the massive piles and use the fumes as a form of chemical warfare , all the enemy forces will be stoned when we come in with MOP suits and Gas masks.

Yes, sure, eliminate the demoralization and fear that inevitably comes with combat. That's why vodka was considered a priority equipment supply in WWII Russia.

Nay, eliminate the combat efficiency and cohesion of the enemy forces, yes the stoned enemy will have no fear, but they'll also have no sense either.
If we eliminate their fear, they'll also be more susceptable to making stupid mistakes (eg. leaving cover and rushing an open field)

[Hannibal]

hardkoreusmc said:

orthrus said:

Yes, sure, eliminate the demoralization and fear that inevitably comes with combat. That's why vodka was considered a priority equipment supply in WWII Russia.

Nay, eliminate the combat efficiency and cohesion of the enemy forces, yes the stoned enemy will have no fear, but they'll also have no sense either.
If we eliminate their fear, they'll also be more susceptable to making stupid mistakes (eg. leaving cover and rushing an open field)

You really don't know die hard pot heads do you? Lmfao! I'm dead serious, you don't know anything about pot heads. One ripped die hard pot head is calm, collective, high attention to detail, order, and even tactics and strategy. Sad to say though, some of these guys smoke weed and play Halo all day long, others have a life, work, university, families. You will how ever find the few that will stand around the fire and hold each other arm in arm singing about the burning pot. They should die due to Operation Uselessness.

Point I'm trying to make to you "Kinda Kore" is that your tactics or strategy is completely unsound. And with deliberate, reckless endangerment of your troops, I now relieve you of your command...oh wait. You were shot in the field? Dead? Meh...grow some weed on his ass. A body is great natural compost.

[the lonely soldier 714]

i know where han's coming from. my brother is a pot head, got me high like twice. and some other crazy sh*t is that pot is actually used for over the counter medication it kills cancer or something like that and yet it get's someone else's ass arrested.

[Hannibal]

Medical weed doesn't kill cancer. It's given to sever cases to numb the pain. Smoke enough, IF it's a high grade, and you're a sleeping monkey.

[the lonely soldier 714]

yeah, experience that too the other night watching UFC, amazingly i stay awake when i couldn't stay away, i was just knocked out cold.

[hardkoreusmc]

d0c said:

hardkoreusmc said:

Nay, eliminate the combat efficiency and cohesion of the enemy forces, yes the stoned enemy will have no fear, but they'll also have no sense either.
If we eliminate their fear, they'll also be more susceptable to making stupid mistakes (eg. leaving cover and rushing an open field)

You really don't know die hard pot heads do you? Lmfao! I'm dead serious, you don't know anything about pot heads. One ripped die hard pot head is calm, collective, high attention to detail, order, and even tactics and strategy. Sad to say though, some of these guys smoke weed and play Halo all day long, others have a life, work, university, families. You will how ever find the few that will stand around the fire and hold each other arm in arm singing about the burning pot. They should die due to Operation Uselessness.

Point I'm trying to make to you "Kinda Kore" is that your tactics or strategy is completely unsound. And with deliberate, reckless endangerment of your troops, I now relieve you of your command...oh wait. You were shot in the field? Dead? Meh...grow some weed on his ass. A body is great natural compost.

Well this was a theoretical construct of chemical warfare, and I doubt many of the Arab military forces are veteran pot heads (many of them cannot aford modern luxuries, much less mass amount of weed), not to mention 'my' troops would be well secured inside the confines contemporary gas masks.

The concept I was trying to convey was that a mass dense cloud of weed smoke( which is essentially not smoke ,but particulate matter like nerve agent) that wafted through their defense would render the operational efficiency of the enemy significantly reduced. Yes experience pot heads would (insert all you said) but think about it, out of a division of troops...how many are 'realistically' pot smoking veterans capable of maintaining such composure?

I think it just because you have been on the field that your first reaction to anybody that hasn't the same experience is going to be extreme doubt, especially from some college boy who studies various aspects of warfare and conflict. I mean, i'm the FNG of all FNG's , what do " I " know?

I don't have the combat lore that you have, but I 'do' have a college education of having studied generals and other aspects of armed conflict. Norman S. from Desert Storm (historian) applied similar theories with his assault ( Stringing Achillies Bow which was aimed a Baghdad), and if the Coalition would have followed through, Baghdad would have fell immediately.

But seeing that you are not one for the theoretical, I'll only discuss realistic.

Realistically, pot wouldn't be used in that manner because it is...well...pot and the Anti-Narcotic Free world would frown upon it being implemented in that manner. Most of the Free would would frown upon any sort of chemical weapons being employed on the enemy for WHATEVER reason.

Many of the greatest warfare innovations and tactics were at one point "theories" and many crust ass veterans such as yourself, doubted them highly (until they worked).

[Hannibal]

Sure if you're offering your personal opinion Candy Kore, I'd love to see what you're all about in the field. But like you said you studied text book strats and tacs. Like you said I'm a crusted ass Vet. who wouldn't know daft either. You've always lashed out at who ever it was that disagreed with you and/or spazed out because of it. You presented that outlook many times over on the board. Besides you said theory right? I tore it to shit and you turned into the little piss ant you always do when something like this happens.

Anything else you'd like to add before you get this thread closed too? Your attitude needs an adjustment Kore. Now if you really want to continue your little word play, do it in a more respectable sense, and continue to talk trash, trying to insult me or other people. Do it in PM. That way no one needs read your lame *c'jit* spitting because you feel like you're so cool.

Other than that, I'm done here for now. Thank and have a nice day.

[hardkoreusmc]

d0c said:

Sure if you're offering your personal opinion Candy Kore, I'd love to see what you're all about in the field. But like you said you studied text book strats and tacs. Like you said I'm a crusted ass Vet. who wouldn't know daft either. You've always lashed out at who ever it was that disagreed with you and/or spazed out because of it. You presented that outlook many times over on the board. Besides you said theory right? I tore it to *c'jit* and you turned into the little piss ant you always do when something like this happens.

Anything else you'd like to add before you get this thread closed too? Your attitude needs an adjustment Kore. Now if you really want to continue your little word play, do it in a more respectable sense, and continue to talk trash, trying to insult me or other people. Do it in PM. That way no one needs read your lame *c'jit* spitting because you feel like you're so cool.

Other than that, I'm done here for now. Thank and have a nice day.

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On with thread...

Is it confirmed there is in fact weed being grown over there? This could be fotoshoppery?

[Still Churchill]

DAAAAAAYYYUUUUM. I don't know man, I wonder if there weed is good enough to be a factor of the war. If this is true, give me some of that taliban shit man.