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Post by Tundra on Mar 26, 2017 11:16:13 GMT -5
Just saw Rogue One. Fuck Rogue One. Why fuck Rogue One?
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Mar 26, 2017 12:24:38 GMT -5
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Post by E-Stalin [Orthrus] on Mar 26, 2017 12:24:38 GMT -5
Just saw Rogue One. Fuck Rogue One. Why fuck Rogue One? Because I think I've turned into Stan Marsh when everything he sees has turned into shit. I'll gather my thoughts and do a proper post on it sometime soon. It's not really bad, but still registers on my fuck it meter, even though it doesn't quite deserve that.
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Post by Tundra on Mar 26, 2017 13:22:08 GMT -5
I think It's a fine film, and the plot is more coherent/logical than TFA's.
I just think they tried to shove too many characters into it to give any of them any meaning. Honestly I've seen it like 3 times now, I can name maybe half the main characters. Not a bad film, it does what it sets out to do. But it doesn't amaze me on many levels.
Obviously Vader's scenes were the highlights, and I for one didn't mind the CGI necromancy. Whoever played Tarkin, and the VFX team did a marvelous job of it.
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Mar 27, 2017 12:40:59 GMT -5
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Post by E-Stalin [Orthrus] on Mar 27, 2017 12:40:59 GMT -5
Ok, so after thinking about it, I can say fuck Rogue One only from the perspective of that I'm a snobby asshole and not anything the film actually deserves.
Saying that: It was definitely refreshing, and oddly enough feels ore like Star Wars than episode 7 did. I think the reason for this is, as mentioned above, it's more cohesive and focused. It did a great job of establishing exactly who's who, where they are, and why they're there.
Our main protagonist was fucking great. The movie gave her something to hate and something to fight, so we've got character motivation and I'm invested in her struggle.
My only complaints really stem from the fact that it's kind of treated as disposable. What I mean is that there's countless small details that I think deserved to be better, but didn't need to be because the films nature is: "We're not going back to this again."
For example, our stand in villain is bleh...boring. Just evil politician that's evil. From the beginning of the film, this guy needed some Joker level characterization or some kind of sympathy, where he believes that what he's doing is for the best. A kind of speech along the lines of, "Hey, Mads, I'm not evil. The empire exists! If I don't do it, someone else will. So why do this? Peace. The rebels will never win, we both know it. All this rebellion is doing is putting innocent peoples lives in harms way. Do you think most of the galaxy cares about this conflict? No, they just want to farm moisture, have a couple of kids, and live on. The faster we end this rebellion, the faster we'll be at peace."
You know, just something. ANYTHING to make it really personal between him and Jyn.
Instead it's really, "My name is Jyn. You killed my father. Prepare to die."
I guess that I wanted there to be a more emotionally personal and epic confrontation between two seperate philosophical idealogies represented by Jyn and...whatever the fuck his name was.
Secondly, it's my own fault, but somehow I lied to myself and thought this would be a proper war film. Instead we get yet another cast of quirky, "please laugh here" moment style motley crue of unwilling heroes. I'm sick go death of this shit, please give me a fucking team of trained soldiers for once. I thought I was going to get some Jason Bourne team infiltrating the Death Star, and got squat. My own fault.
Other than small shit like that, it really is a solid movie, it's just that...I don't know, it somehow failed to deliver a massive, emotional sledgehammer to me. I loved the direction they went with loss and sacrifice and nameless heroism, but I'm just dumbfounded at how blandly it managed to do it.
SPOILERS:
Literally the very end of the film is where we get a smidgeon of what I hoped for, that moment when a nameless rebel is going "Take it!" Through the door, desperately trying to salvage his job moments away from dying. Hell, really, Rogue One should have been about THAT batch of rebels in the hallway at the end. They should have been the remnants of the infiltration team that we got to know and love only to be brutally cut down to the last man right there at the end.
So yeah, it's pretty damned good, it's just that it's so good it deserved to be even better. But that's just because I'm a prick.
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Post by Tundra on Mar 28, 2017 12:15:39 GMT -5
Saying that: It was definitely refreshing, and oddly enough feels ore like Star Wars than episode 7 did. I think the reason for this is, as mentioned above, it's more cohesive and focused. It did a great job of establishing exactly who's who, where they are, and why they're there. That describes the film perfectly really. Not a lot more to it. She was aiight. I've got no major problems with her, or her character ark, but with so many main characters all needing an ark as well, all them end up being just ok. The droid was by far the best though. The devil's in the details. One thing that still irks me is the shot of the Death Star's laser dish being installed. My mind cannot reconcile the size and complexity of that construction, with the ultra simple act of just plugging it into a moon sized space station. Also, the Star Destroyers looked too clean and white. Maybe I'm remembering the originals wrong, but they always seemed more grey-ish or with a dark navy blue hue to them. Rogue One's have a more crisp white color to them. Looks off, dunno if it was the miniatures or CGI. Bleh is probably the best word for him. I was so hopeful and excited after seeing him in the teasers and trailers. The white uniform and cape gave him such a contrast appearance from the other Imperial Officers, very Thrawn esque, and I came to expect a Thrawn type villain from him. Instead he's just a fancy dressed muppet from start to finish. Too incompetent to build the Death Start alone, and then also too incompetent to realize he could have built the Death Star alone. His blaster is pretty kick ass in Battlefront though, it's like a 6 shooter with a magazine, but deals all the damage. Director Bleh I think it was. And you're right. I'd kill JJ Abrams for an Empire based anthology film. What makes someone in the Empire loyal to them? How do they deal with the moral shit they're made to do? How can every single Stormtrooper be so consistently terrible at basic soldier stuff? The Clone Wars show handled that aspect beautifully on many occasions. The Krell story arc in particular is an amazing 5 part storyline featuring mainly clones, and makes them question their loyalty and skills. Completely agree. Vader's scene were the only really emotional ones for me. I quite like the addition of his castle based on Mustafar. Apparently, the audience chamber where Director Bleh meets him, overlooks the place where Obi-Wan defeated Anakin.
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Post by Tundra on Apr 14, 2017 11:03:13 GMT -5
The Last Jedi teaser trailer is up.
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Post by Tundra on Apr 21, 2017 17:08:25 GMT -5
Having had some time to process the new trailer, It's probably the least excited I've been for a Star Wars movie, ever.
The movie has to tie up and explain a god damn plethora of plotholes, and I've not seen anything to indicate that it intends to.
Really starting to miss George...
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Post by Tundra on Apr 25, 2017 1:37:42 GMT -5
(Triple posting, who's gonna stop me?)
Fun fact, when I watched the Rebels season 3 finale episodes, I noticed the credits listing a certain Lars Mikkelsen as the voice of Grand Admiral Thrawn. I was completely baffled, flabbergasted even, as just a week prior I had seen this Lars host a Danish documentary series.
Yes this post is blatant nationalism, but It really does warm every Dane's heart when our actors get such important and memorable roles. I think Lars did an admirable (geddit?) job as Thrawn, and I look forward to seeing more of him for the 4th, and sadly, last season of Rebels.
Of course I was also overjoyed to see Mads Mikkelsen (whom my girlfriend adores) starring in Rogue One, and he was a genuine highlight in the film.
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Post by E-Stalin [Orthrus] on Jun 9, 2017 5:59:52 GMT -5
Having had some time to process the new trailer, It's probably the least excited I've been for a Star Wars movie, ever.
The movie has to tie up and explain a god damn plethora of plotholes, and I've not seen anything to indicate that it intends to.
Really starting to miss George... Heyo, I'm back. Aaaand, yup. I think that you and I are very much cut from the same cloth when it comes to Star Wars. Speaking of which, just got the Clone Wars set to go after you mentioned it. I always assumed it was a kids cartoon, but kept hearing good things about it, and well - your recommendation on that front pretty much cemented that it's about time I watch it. As for this trailer - First shot: Rey reveal. Tells us nothing at all except for revealing that it's the Stat Wars trailer. Based on the terrain, this seems to be her doing her training under Luke. The next several shots confirm this: Rey is training to become a Jedi. Which is neat and bad at the same time. On one hand: FUCK YES, Rey needed this kind of shit. Kill Bill - you're the pupil, learn from the master. Thank god. The bad: first, Rey's already a magic badass. I have no doubt that I won't get a feeling of her growing in strength of body and mind as a person, but will instead get a cheap excuse to make her even more badass. You can't make this work given what transpired in FA. Unless they do some really cool shit with focusing on Luke as the primary issue, this aspect of the film will be a waste of time. Why? Because there's no god damned conflict. Luke's training under Yoda: first, we learned more cool shit about this word. Second, Luke's dark/light conflict is introduced here. Third, Luke's motivation for learning this is present: Vader killed your father. I want to take down Vader, I want to be a Jedi like my fa- HOLD THE FUCK UP. It just hit me, ANOTHER problem with FA. WHY THE FUCK DID REY SEEK OUT LUKE FOR TRAINING!? Luke trusted Obi-Wan and wanted to be like his father and his uncle (Obi), he wanted to defeat his father's killer and he wanted to be a hero and he wanted to fight evil. WHAT THE FUCK DOES REY WANT? What does she WANT!? FUCK. -ther. She's apparently here for no reason whatsoever but to be more badass. Finally, given that lack of motivation, her training will be boring because we already know all this shit, we've seen it already. Either a. Do an awesome Kill Bill thing where Rey can actually flesh out as a character and reveal things about her mental state and motivations and emotions, Or B. Character study on Luke and establish history of wtf happened in the past with Ren. Anything else will be a waste of time. ---- Then we get some useless shots that tell us nothing about the film, BUT, BUT - there's the dialogue of light and dark and a balance. Maybe, MAYBE, just fucking maybe, there may be some big picture shit that actually matters about the force and light and dark in general revealed in this film. Maybe it'll give us something new, maybe it will have balls. The rest of the trailer tells us nothing and gives us nothing but fucking "cool action yo, give us money to see shit you've already seen a thousand times yo". I'm willing to bet money that final shot of Luke going "time for the jedi to end" is a meaningless copout that won't be a major issue at all and is a single throw away line as Rey convinces him go teach her. ----- BUT - maybe, hopefully, there's some kind of issue of balance and how the bigger the light gets the more it fosters darkness or something or I don't know, ANYTHING interesting. ANYTHING that's an actual conflict. We'll see, but I have very low hopes after FA. See, Star Wars has always been SIMPLE, but emotionally powerful. If you keep making more SW films that remain SIMPLE, then you're showing us what was already done and done well. 8 NEEDS to fuck things up and shake things up and challenge its characters and challenge us an audience, or it can fuck off and die. Why do I think it'll ultimately need to fuck up and die? Because there's 5 motherfucking transformers films out now. Money works, money rules, the films are made to sell, disney's not stupid, and they are ultimately a business. .....and yet I hope. God damn it.
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Post by Tundra on Jun 9, 2017 17:13:25 GMT -5
Glad you're giving it a shot. It's like 5-6 seasons, so there'll be some hits and some misses. But when that show does something amazing, it's really amazing. And keep in mind, the cool shit also came from George. And remember; The Krell arc, mid season 5 I think, It's like Band of Brothers Star Wars Edition.
Another great point most people completely missed. Apart from the Lightsaber "calling" to her, there's literally nothing that should logically entice her to aspire to become a Jedi. Furthermore, there's no reason Luke should even want to train her.
So we're gonna need to know all about Rey's past, and Luke's fate in like, the first 20 minutes of the film for this shit to start making sense.
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I'm desperately trying to avoid getting Episode I syndrome, and just fleshing out what I think i want from the film, but It's really hard not to.
I'd want the balance teasing to refer somewhat to the failure of the Jedi seen in the prequels. A sort of catharsis of all the hard earned lessons and wisdom passed through the fall of the Jedi, straight to Luke, and see him remake the Jedi as they were originally meant to be; Keeping the balance.
And I don't want a single fucking mention of the Sith. Snoke ain't Sith. Kylo ain't Sith. Anakin was the chosen one, he fulfilled his destiny and destroyed the Sith. First time I hear the word "Sith" I'm walking out of the theater.
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100% in agreement.
I've just spent the last couple of weeks binge watching The Next Generation, followed by all 4 TGN films, just to sort of cross Star Trek off my Geek to do list. Then I rewatched the JJ Abrams reboot.
It's the exact same fucking issues. The things that made Star Trek (reboot) and TFA good, had fuckall to do with what defines those franchises. Star Trek is just Star Wars: Action Edition, and TFA Is Episode IV: Remastered. JJ just doesn't fucking get franchises, and has zero original ideas.
Fuck Jar Jar Abrams.
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Post by Tundra on Jun 12, 2017 12:38:28 GMT -5
With E3 now in full swing, we got the first gameplay footage, and a trailer, for Battlefront II.
I came.
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