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Post by Inventor on Dec 17, 2008 19:15:52 GMT -5
Dear critics;
I want you all to know that I forgive you for telling me that my inventions would never work and spamming me with skeptical messages. I realize that if it hadn't been for your discouragement, I would never have fought so hard to be an inventor... Rather, I would have quit six months into trying.
Instead, because of your hatred and criticism of me, I am now the youngest member of the American Society for Mechanical Engineers and a successful inventor. I will soon be going away to work on a project, and to try to establish a contract with Dr. Mike North of the television show Prototype This!, so I wanted to take this opportunity to forgive you and even to thank you for encouraging me through discouragment.
Sincerely,
- The Electro-Elite Creations, Inc. Founder
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Post by Hannibal on Dec 17, 2008 20:12:09 GMT -5
Congratulations on your new found success, though I doubt it's because of these so called "haters" that you claim have discouraged you. I think it has more to do with yourself, and meaning in that is, you wanted it bad enough and believed in yourself that you made your path and walked it too. Good on ya lad, and let me also say... it only takes a nudge to fall but when you're pushed you push back. And in such a positive manner too. Good check man, and truck on.
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Post by Aseigan Cetanu on Dec 17, 2008 21:23:43 GMT -5
Congratulations, Inventor. I haven't been around here long, about two months. It's good to hear a success story, and I hope you have a good time and have much success in your new-found career.
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Post by E-Stalin [Orthrus] on Dec 17, 2008 23:16:03 GMT -5
Heh. I have a problem with this. While I do sincerely appreciate the fact that you've at least matured enough to do this, you, forgive us? Since I won't talk for others, let me change that to forgive me. Thing is, unless you're coming from the context of "Turn the other cheek", you rather have things in reverse. Unless you're trying to forgive people for helping you when they saw and felt that you were struggling, until you turned rather too aggressive, and therefore this thing kind of...pisses me off.
But, I appreciate seeing something remotely proper from you, and therefore wouldn't like to resurrect old troubles, seeing as people care capable of maturing very quickly. So though I still have the same shred of hope for human dignity and rationality that I usually retain for the people I've argued with (call it the benefit of doubt), as well as misanthropic wariness that keeps my hopes from getting too high, I have a problem with this. Therefore, I'll merely offer exactly what people originally did: advice, and therefore amiable concern.
1. Have you filed any patents? Do it. Then consider yourself an inventor, and boast about it all you like, because you'll actually deserve it and because it's one of the best feelings in the world, assuming it's a good patent. A person that comes up with ideas is no inventor. Every single man, woman, and child has come up with the craziest and funnest ideas. Very few of those ideas ever become reality, and even fewer become ingrained in society and therefore earn profit. Filing a patent takes a lot of work. It took me, my father, and my brother working a hell of a lot for a patent on a revolver invention, and believe me, the invention itself was simple as hell, and it's still a pending patent for that matter. For something complex (Your field) it'll take a ton of work. An upgrade to a hospital Cell Saver has been taking over a year to work on, what with work and day to day life. If you're willing to do that (which I'm guessing you are), get started, persist, and get a patent filed. Then you will be an inventor, and you might actually get a pretty good income and you'll have successfully accomplished something. Don't come up with ideas and leave them unfinished.
2. Finish high school. Go to college. Hopefully go to a university. Then worry about getting a job on a television show, because it's not going to happen when you haven't finished education. Of course, there's nothing wrong with getting in contact with him and working it out for future work and reference, but as with most people, you're overambitious right now. You're trying to do something before finishing the basics because you feel you're already capable of doing it. Keep thinking of these things, but do not act on them. Finish up with your education, and then go crazy. It's almost impossible to do anything (especially what you like to do) without a decent education, no matter what you know or how intelligent you might be. Even Einstein had to get into college, despite dropping out of high school, and he failed on some entry exams as well.
3. Electro-Elite Creations Inc. isn't an actual corporation. Unless you've gone to a lawyer, been legally admitted as a full blown adult (Which requires an age of 16 and an extremely good reason, such as your parents being dead and you having passed school), gotten a job, and actually started your own business, which you're now running and getting a profit from, you haven't found it. Sure, it may be a group of friends, or an online thing or an advice group, but you really need to avoid that. Completely making up organizations and groups is something almost everyone does, and something almost everyone stops doing by the age of 13. Most kids refer to it as something "Club". You made some organization against the environment. The point being, it's a hindrance to you. I'm saying this from the assumption that you're old enough and hopefully matured enough by now to realize that you're in the middle of high-school, and you need to start worrying about finishing it. Forget these organizations and clubs. They're excellent for a past time and good old childish fun (We Roleplay afterall, don't we?), but you took it way too seriously. Drop it for now, and start trying to skip a grade in school.
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Post by Inventor on Jan 5, 2009 18:01:30 GMT -5
I've already skipped a grade in school long ago, my friend. Next year I will graduate. Electro-Elite is a real company. You may see the Web site for yourself by going to electro-elite.webs.comFeel free to buy schematics while you're there, I have many customers but can always use more I'll have you know that I already have a lot of money in the bank. The exact amount, I will not disclose over the Internet. I am currently the youngest member of the ASME and second youngest C.E.O. in the world. I'm ahead in school work and have a job at an animal-rescue shelter. I am doing very well now, critics. Can the same be said for you?
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Post by E-Stalin [Orthrus] on Jan 5, 2009 20:06:04 GMT -5
You know, I truly believe that I must be an idiot or something. The fact that I keep making the same mistake over and over really is...it's just sad. I actually believed, for just a moment, that you might have grown into a normal person. Obviously that was yet another erroneousness belief and hope. Tch.
It took me fifteen minutes to do some research, pull up a federal list of domestic United States companies, check out your so called website, your other message boards, and determine the inevitable. You haven't changed a bit. Not really. Exact same ignorance and delusions.
A company, corporation, joint association, whatever you want to call it, is a legal entity with an industrial contribution or enterprise that is defined as separate from the individuals running it. It is a legally accepted and listed organization. Somehow I don't believe that a real legitimate company uses a free online service for a webpage, such as free-webs, contains only one member that doesn't even provide their name but calls themselves "idiot tree" and is fifteen years old. Electro-elite isn't listed on any federal list of U.S based companies, nor even on any google results, and the closest matches are an electrical contractor and a Russian MP3 website. Cool music downloads by the way.
This so called company, without any contact details, location of headquarters, facilities, product, or staff, doesn't even understand what it's talking about. There is not one single product out for sale, but advertisements for items that either are completely non-existent or are already in use by the medical field.
"Interested in dynamic nanotechnological insertion/transjection through a continuum flaw by the use of rocket propellants such as hexantirohexaasizowurtzitane, which have an explosive detonation velocity of 1.475 or more and a contraption which would latch onto ultraviolet rays and shunt particles through the theoretical track made by light travelling?"
What is this? As far as I can tell, you're talking about throwing nano-machines through a rip in space-time by using an explosive. In others words, pure star-trek BS that denies all currently known laws of physics with the "BUT WHAT IF" principal. You say "I'll build a tiny machine that can survive an explosion and will magically catch onto photons for no apparent reason at all" when this is completely impossible and you have no idea how it would work. That's what separates real inventors from sci-fi authors. Real inventors come up with an idea, figure out how to make it, and then make it. You don't.
There is no "theoretical track" made by light. Hypothetically light creates ripples in space-time which in turn takes the form of geometric gravity. There is no train track for it to travel across and no rift in space-time for a nano-machine to travel through. That all remains in science fiction novels, even ones written by men that actually did real and proper research. Michael Crichton had to cut corners after all, and so did everyone else. You didn't even understand the difference between theory and hypothesis or basic biology last time I checked. For that matter, how will making a nano-machine travel at C allow it to go back in time? What, a particle traveling at the speed of light goes back in time now? If you manage to grab a photon, all that will happen is the photon will refract/reflect/stop/absorb. There's a reason quarks and neutrinos don't move at the speed of light. For that matter, photons have 0 rest mass. You physically cannot bind to them. Not like you're thinking.
Then there's that old psychosis of you bringing television characters to life. You say "this hypothesis fits the facts and laws of physics 100%. I'm not even bending the laws." No, you're not bending the laws, because you don't even understand what the laws are. Let me lay it out for you.
Everything in the universe sure as hell isn't made of energy. Everything in the universe is made of matter, and according to Einstein matter and energy are the same thing in different forms. Matter is still different from energy. It has potential energy in it, no matter what, but matter in itself is not pure energy. Energy itself is an unmeasurable quantity, we have no idea what the hell it is, and can only define it as the ability to perform work. The measurable unit of energy is Quanta or Quantum. Photons for example are Quanta, and this is where you get into Quantum Physics, which makes no damned sense to some of the greatest minds in history.
There's no such thing as the electrical energy you're talking about. There is a potential energy between electrically charged particles, such as in the nucleus of an atom, but you cannot turn electricity into a living organism. The kind of electric energy you're talking about is nothing but kinetic energy, the motion of charged electrons. They move fast, boom, you have kinetic energy. How the hell do you intend to take moving electrons and turn them into several trillion living cells composed of protons, neutrons, electrons, quarks, leptons, bosons, nucleic acids, amino acids, proteins, lipids, carbohydrates, and phosphates?
How the hell do you go from moving electrons, which is just a lepton, to a bi-lipid membrane with protein channels stuck in it that's shot through with a cytoskeleton to support it, has carbohydrate receptors on the surface, contains a nucleic molecule that possesses enzymes to strip and copy sections of code that is sent as mRNA to ribosomes which add on amino acids that are obtained from ingested materials to form proteins that are modified by the endoplasmic reticulum, specialized in the golgi apparatus, sent off on their merry way to a circulatory system, disposed of in a lymphatic system, attached to enzymes on erythrocytes, magically carried off to other cells, used to enforce other organs, and are dispelled in dead tissue.
Each cell continues to function because the organism ingests raw materials: proteins and glucose. 2 ATP molecules are used to break a single Glucose molecule into two molecules of Pyruvic acid, releasing a further four molecules of ATP for a net bonus of 2 ATP molecules. If oxygen is present, the pyruvic acid molecules are oxidized to form carbon dioxide (waste) and an Acetyl enzyme complex. If oxygen remains present, this molecule goes into the Kreb's Cycle in yet another organelle called the Mitochondria. It is oxidized to CO2 compounds, and when doing this, strips an NAD molecule to NADH, allowing that NADH molecule to accept extra electrons (kinetic energy) and transfer them in the electron transport change, further producing ATP.
If oxygen is not present after glycolysis, the pyruvic acid will ferment to lactic acid. When this happens, a couple electrons are given off, which are used by the cell to perform glycolysis yet again to get enough energy to remove the lactic acid, which is waste. This is transported out of the cell and removed from the body.
The energy is used by organelles and protein channels to function and allow further raw materials to enter the cell to further produce energy. Surplus energy is used to metabolize raw materials and turn them into proteins and building blocks for cells to allow the organism to continue to aquire still further raw materials in an endless cycle.
If the organism goes into clinical shock for say, ischemia (loss of circulation) or hypovolemia (sheer blood loss) the body might go into an ischemic cascade. There is no oxygen because there is no circulation of the blood. No oxygen means no Kreb's Cycle, which means that all the cell can do is glycolysis. The cell performs anaerobic respiration, producing waste Lactic Acid in the process as it struggles to produce enough energy. This is not enough energy, and the protein and ion channel pumps in the cell membrane fail, because they do not have the energy to do Active Transport. Without that energy, they open up and the previous polarization of the cell completely fails. A hell of a lot of positive charged ions enter the cell, most importantly, Calcium ions. Excess calcium causes the cell to release a neurotransmitter called Glutamate. Glutamate stimulates neurotransmitter receptors on the cell, which cause still more Calcium ions to flow into it and the cell enters a positive feedback cycle, which calcium flowing in which causes more calcium to flow in. This much calcium causes excitotoxicity. It triggers the release and production of a whole host of crud. You get concentrated and unstable oxygen molecules, free radicals, a ton of enzymes that depend on Calcium. All this stuff literally kills off portions of the cell. Some of it completely perforates the cell membrane and still more ions and toxic waste get into it. The mitochondria breaks apart, releases certain chemicals, and these chemicals trigger apoptosis. Programmed Cell Death occurs. You die.
Neurons transmit an electrical impulse through an axon terminal by Action Potential (Kick-ass term, I love it). Action potential is an electrical impulse created through shifting of charged ions. The cells ion transport pumps open up, potassium and sodium ions move about, and create and electric charge. This electrical charge jumps down the nerve. Nerve conduction velocity is so fast because nerves are encased in a myelin sheath. The electrical impulse cannot travel through the myelin, and so "jumps" over it in an arc, continually jumping from point to point instead of being conducted, which is much faster. This electrical impulse reaches the end of the axon terminal, right before a synapse. It stimulates the release of a specific neurotransmitter from small vacuole like bubbles containing it (How the hell the brain knows which one to release is beyond us). These neurotransmitters cross over the synapse, bind to specific receptors (like a lock and a key) and stimulate another action potential on the other side of the synapse, continuing the nerve impulse.
You physically move when a neurotransmitter called acetylcholine binds to a receptor in the synapse, stimulating a jerk of muscles by electric charge. This neurotransmitter stays in that receptor, continually sending an impulse for continual motion. This would never stop unless another neurotransmitter called Acetylcholinesterase comes along to break down the Psycholinguists, which is then recycled in the synapse. A nerve agent kills you by being absorbed into your bloodstream, and then chemically binding to Acetylcholinesterase molecules, preventing them from breaking down acetylcholine. The result is that your body continually receives electrical impulses, goes into convulsions, and dies because it cannot relax the diaphragm to breathe.
Drugs like atropine and benzodiazepines (Sniper Wolf, anyone?) have the opposite effect. They are competitive antagonists. Atropine for example binds to the Muscarine acetylcholine receptor in the synapse. This mimics acetylcholine so it can bind, but it fails to send the electrical impulse that acetylcholine does. Since acetylcholine can no longer bind to the used up receptors, the body can no longer move and dies.
Do you understand what I'm getting at? Do you understand how unbelievably complex the human body is!?. This is why you believe your terminator falsity. You have absolutely no bloody idea just what you're dealing with. Go to medical school, then try and argue your "electrons to predator" or "build a terminator" ideas.
Next, your update on "Nano-technology meets particle physics". Absolute tripe says I. You do realize that tachyons are completely non-existant and unsupported hypothetical particles that travel faster than the speed of light. A tachyon isn't even a single particle but an umbrella term for any hypothetical particle that travels faster than C. It doesn't exist as far as reality is concerned. Your physics do not in any way fit the facts, because in the end all you've come up with is taking binary code and using that as an instruction to create a living organism. In other words, you want to take electrons floating around, that program a computer to "Display 15 red pixels here, 100 gray pixels here, and 200 blue pixels here" and turn that into a multi-dimensional object. Computer images are nothing more than charged photons hitting a glass screen.
Get the point yet? This is why I told you what I did. You don't understand a thing about what you're trying to do. You watch too many science fiction movies and believe that hollywood understands what it's talking about. If you really did do so well in school, then you need to go back and redo that grade you skipped, because you really need it the experience, especially when you don't understand basic biology.
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Post by Setg on Jan 6, 2009 8:14:31 GMT -5
"And when Alexander saw the breadth of his domain, he wept, for there were no more worlds to conquer."
That's you right there Orthrus, right there. When the General said you would beat him in an owning contest I didn't believe him. I've seen the simpering wrecks he's left over the past 3-odd years, but you sir are something completely different. You ARE Alexander. You own the world.
I even feel dirty and ashamed at even replying to this thread, and as much fun as has been reading it, I'm locking it as Tommy will just keep coming back, and coming back, and coming back...in fact no, I'm leaving it open to save more threads being created.
Tommy, whilst I admire your enthusiasm, your creativity, and your no-doubt Ritalin inspired imagination, please stop. For God's sake stop. We don't care. Really.
No, really.
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Post by [-OverKill-] on Jan 6, 2009 21:47:08 GMT -5
Well...i see that The Hunted is always full of people with...."Imagination''.
[glow=red,2,300][glow=red,2,300]Anti-gravity shoes![/glow] "When most people think about the future, one of the first things they think of is comfortable shoes which allow them to jump high and walk long distances without discomfort. Thanks to the inventor of the Gravity-Defyer Shoe System, that is now possible"[/glow] I think i will order one of those....and they come with....Fries?
[glow=red,2,300]''Tiny little computer that clips to your belt, which will insert you into your own alternate reality world at any time!''[/glow]
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Post by BloodyFangs on Jan 6, 2009 22:53:38 GMT -5
Well now, looks like I've misses something else good during my sporadic visits. Orthrus, you truly turn verbal thrashing into an art form.
You're not the only one that had a bit of trouble with the forgiveness bit. I'm surprised more people didn't make a mention of how egotistic and immature it sounds.
And while I can not even dream of thrashing idiots in even a fraction of the way that Orthrus did, I just have to say that you've done very little of anything that truly counts, Tommy. Much like Orthrus already stated, you've got ideas that have interested people. Big friggin whoop. That's the most common thing in the world. Everyone's got some idea that catches the interest of someone else. It does not make you special. At least, special in terms that do not relate to your mental deficiencies.
Again, as Orthrus said, you have nothing that is official. You have a website with a name that could sound official, a claim to sell schematics of god-knows-what, and some pictures. That doesn't mean jack squat, kid.
You have money in the bank, are doing well in school and have a job. Good for you. Most of us do as well. Again, you are not special. Just mentally unstable.
You have no true understanding of anything you're talking about, nor have you done anything of any real importance just yet, and therefore have no right to look down your nose at others.
You have no right to act like a pompous, condescending little brat just because someone thinks you aren't a complete moron.
Get a clue, kid. You're not anything spectacular.
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